Hollyburn Chute conditions and May 26 training run changes

This year is a par­tic­u­larly bad one for wind­fall on many trails, with sev­eral sus­tain­ing sig­nif­i­cant damage from storms over the past six months. The Holly­burn Chute sec­tion of the Baden Powell Trail (which is roughly south of the Hol­lly­burn Lodge to Craig­mohr Road) had, at last count, about 60 trees down across the trail. Sev­eral vol­un­teers have cleared fallen branches and put up trail tapes so you can nav­i­gate through the Chute, but it’s cur­rently not runnable.

The Dis­trict of West Van­cou­ver is aware of the Holly­burn Chute damage and they will send  work crews to clean it up in the next few weeks. Until that is done, our train­ing runs will avoid the Chute begin­ning with this Sunday’s run, so please ensure you hear the updated route infor­ma­tion at the train­ing run brief­ing. (The meet­ing place and time are unchanged.)

Snow and wind storms of the past several months brought down many trees on the Hollyburn Chute. Volunteers have cut cleared the branches so that you can do your best parkour move over the trees. Chainsaw crews will be called in during the next few weeks.

Snow and wind storms of the past sev­eral months brought down many trees on the Holly­burn Chute. Vol­un­teers have cleared the branches so you can do your best park­our move over the trees. Chain­saw crews will remove the rest of the damage in the next few weeks.

BP trail conditions for Cypress to Hollyburn

A small group checked out the Baden Powell Trail today from Cypress to Holly­burn. We found mostly con­tin­u­ous snow rang­ing from 30cm to 90cm. Snow­pack is melt­ing rapidly with rain and warm tem­per­a­tures. Watch out for posthol­ing and the snow­bridge at the first creek cross­ing will weaken con­sid­er­ably over the next week, so be cau­tious there. (You may need to find a cross­ing higher up from where the trail actu­ally crosses.) We put up tapes wher­ever the mark­ers weren’t obvi­ous. Ski runs  have a solid snow­pack between 60cm-90cm deep. Only one blow­down, located five min­utes east of Cypress Sk area, but easily bypassed.

Training run Q & A — What’s the distance for today’s run?

What’s the dis­tance for the Sunday train­ing runs? That info would help me plan my train­ing on days when I can’t make it to the offi­cial run.”

This recent ques­tion on our Face­book com­mu­nity page prompted a dis­cus­sion amongst our Knee Knacker Sunday train­ing run lead­ers. It’s a ques­tion that comes up every year (usu­ally fol­lowed by “what pace should I be run­ning?” and “how does my marathon time con­vert into a Knee Knacker time?”).

We don’t pro­vide distances–and at this point, any dis­tances we give would be esti­mates at best, sure to be argued by var­i­ous GPS-toting colleagues–because our phi­los­o­phy is that train­ing on the route (or sim­i­lar ter­rain and con­di­tions) is the best sort of train­ing for the Knee Knacker.

Run­ning on moun­tain­ous trails brings its own idio­syn­cra­cies, so the Sunday train­ing routes were not picked so much for dis­tance, but as a pro­gres­sion of time spent on the trail. Over the years, we’ve found this train­ing reg­i­men to be sur­pris­ingly effec­tive (for really only two months to get people ‘up to speed’ for race day).

Addi­tion­ally, it’s more impor­tant to train on dif­fer­ing styles of ter­rain in given peri­ods of time, instead of focussing on the actual distance.

For exam­ple, a hilly or tech­ni­cal sec­tion is noth­ing like the same dis­tance on a road or a flat gravel foot­path. Imag­ine plot­ting a 3km course on the Sea­wall versus doing the Grouse Grind.…sounds absurd? Not at all, as this weekend’s run incor­po­rates a very seri­ous climb up Moun­tain High­way to the top of Grouse Moun­tain, fol­lowed by (an optional) run down the BCMC.

If you really need to know the dis­tance, check out “Explor­ing Vancouver’s North Shore Moun­tains” by Roger and Ethel Free­man. It’s a bit old now, but the authors were fas­tid­i­ous about walk­ing every trail (twice) with a wheel to mea­sure dis­tances to the tenth of a kilometre! It’s still by far the best hiking guide to the North Shore.

May 12 Training Run Photos — She saw

A wet and muddy train­ing day on the trails did not stop the enthu­si­asm of 70+ run­ners.  Many thanks to Andrew Wong for toting the umbrella up and down the trails — must pro­tect the camera equip­ment!  Train­ing run photos by Karen Chow are here.

Down­load pic­tures for a buck each. More info can be found here.
The pro­ceeds of all photo pur­chases are donated to North Shore Rescue.

May 5 training run — Allow time for parking at Grouse Mtn

If you’re going on the May 5 train­ing run, allow extra time for park­ing at Grouse Mtn. The free gravel park­ing lot was fill­ing up fast by 7am today (!!!) and the over­flow gate wasn’t open yet. If you can’t park in the over­flow sec­tion of the gravel lot, you’ll have to park in the pay-parking lot or on Nancy Greene Way. What­ever you do, allow a bit of time to get to the meet­ing point.

Banner photos to inspire your training runs

Did you notice that we changed the website’s banner photos to fea­ture var­i­ous 2012 train­ing runs? Don’t be sur­prised if you appear in a future banner photo as our intre­pid pho­tog­ra­phers will be join­ing as many train­ing runs as pos­si­ble, look­ing for the best  van­tage spot and pray­ing to the weather gods for good, even lighting!

Good news for Knee Knacker runners and volunteers!

The Salomon store at Park Royal in West Van­cou­ver has extended its dis­count for another week! That’s right, run­ners and vol­un­teers can receive a 20% dis­count on selected Salomon prod­ucts from May 1 until July 21. Just let the store know whether you are a runner or vol­un­teer and bring a piece of ID with you.

Thanks for sup­port­ing Salomon!

Check for training run updates before you go

Some­times there are last minute updates to a train­ing run (eg. where to meet, where we’re going) so before you leave for the run, check the web­site or our Face­book com­mu­nity page for announce­ments. This applies to the Wednes­day runs (updates on Face­book) and the Sunday runs (Face­book and web­site). Most of the time there’s no update, but you never know! Having said that, the June 9 run will be from Deep Cove to St George’s Bench (not Mos­quito Creek).